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On this episode of the pod, Lisa Takami, EdD, stops by to discuss her new book, Women in the Higher Education C-Suite: Diverse Executive Profiles. The book features profiles of numerous women in senior leadership positions in higher education as they share lessons learned about barriers to ascension to leadership for women broadly and women of color specifically. AAVMC’s Lisa Greenhill, EdD, and Takami (the Lisas!) also discuss the role of men and masc-leaning allies and the dearth of research on nonbinary and transacademic leaders.